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I Just Want To Sell Cars
“I Just Want To Sell Cars!” I usually hear this from salespeople or even sales managers when I am talking about CRM. Why? What part of CRM keeps you from selling cars? Ask that in response and you will get a barrage of impressive explanations. It takes to long. It gets in the way of me and my customer. I can do better using a pencil and 3x5 cards. It slows me down. It creates busy work and CRM has never sold a car.
Why is it that sales people and sometimes sales managers have major issues with CRM and the BDC agents and managers couldn't live without it. Aren't they both interfacing with the same customers. What causes this great divide amongst the “sales floor” and CRM?
Customer Relationship Management or CRM was designed to do one thing, help the dealership manage it’s relationship with it’s customers and find and nurture future customers. So why all the angst from the sales floor. Because CRM has become big brother to the salespeople.
The perception of CRM needs to change in our dealerships and it starts with everyone in the dealership using CRM. From the Dealer Principle and the General Manager to the Service Manager and Salespeople. Adopt a policy of “if it didn’t happen in CRM, then it didn’t happen”. All disputes on the sales floor should be solved using CRM. All of your reporting should come from your CRM. If you are all drawing from the same well your dealership will start to see the value of using CRM and using it well.
Don’t stand for garbage. The term “garbage in garbage out” is an example of forcing people to use the CRM. Your people need to see that CRM is there to help them. You can accomplish this by doing one-on-one training with your people. Use group training to explain the concept and functions of the CRM but focus on using the CRM the right way through one on one sessions.
Transparency. Inform everyone of what goes on in the CRM. Let them know and see what is being sent out and generated in the CRM. Let them see the programmed to list generator. Show them the action plans that are programmed into the system. Get their input and suggestions. Provide reporting, create a leaderboard in the dealership of the best users. Show everyone who is doing there job, Make this standard for recognition in the dealership.
Job requirement. When you hire new people include in their job description the requirement to use the CRM system in their respective job role. Hold people accountable to this principle. What would happen if an employee was let go because they refused to use CRM? What message does that send? This may be an extreme example but sometimes you have to deal with an extreme situation.
CRM is simply a tool, however it does become the nerve center of your dealership. Establishing a culture of CRM in your dealership will yield many benefits. Your ability to coach your teams using actual data, helping salespeople improve every step in the road to the sale. Using the data to create and track your marketing efforts. The more data points, the better your marketing can be. Send your customers birthday cards on their actual birthdays, it’s on the drivers licence, and it can help you to stand out from your competition. Use it to reactivate past customers that are in a trade cycle. Save a deal meetings, review the notes from the salespeople and find missed opportunities.
In today’s world we no longer have the luxury of letting opportunities be wasted. We have to capitalize on everyone of them in order to thrive. CRM will help you sell cars. So the next time you hear someone say “I just want to sell cars” reply with, “Great, this is how we do it!”
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Changing Your Dealerships Culture.
Changing a Dealerships Culture
In Greek mythology Sisyphus was compelled, as a punishment for deceitfulness, to roll a boulder up a hill, When it almost reached the top he would witness it roll to the bottom and then would repeat this action over and over again for eternity.
Sound familiar.
General Managers and owners often recognize these things and attempt to make changes only to watch the boulder roll down the hill again.
The only way to truly effect change in a dealership is to change the culture. If you have ever visited a foreign country you have been faced with culture shock. You have observed odd things that people do that is part of their habits and heritage. If you ever inquire as to why, lets say for argument sakes the brits drink tea the answer would sound a lot like this. “I don’t know, we have always drank tea. It’s british don’t you know”
Many “things” that are done in a dealership are done out of habit and heritage. Take for instance the training of the new salesperson. My experience has been that the new guy is introduced at a sales meeting and everyone is asked to help him out. The Sales Manager shows him his desk, walks him around the showroom and then he is shown the key room. “These are the keys to the new cars, and these are the keys to the used cars, now go and make me proud”. Often they are “assigned” to another seasoned salesperson to show them the ropes. This usually develops into the new guy becoming a glorified personal assistant to the “mentoring” sales person. After a few months the new guy just doesn't seem to be cut out for the car business. He has learned a lot of bad habits and has developed a negative attitude. Is it any wonder?
General Managers and owners want to change this behavior. They speak in their managers meetings about making changes and introducing new “policies” of “don’t do this” , or “don't do that” with the threat of punishment or termination. None of which they want to carry out.
And so we see the boulder continually roll down the hill after we have exerted massive effort to get it to the top of the hill. Why does this happen? Do you find that both managers and employees simply wait you out? Do your employees have a notion that “if we just, provide lip service, and act like we are doing it, it will simply go away.”
The examples above may seem extreme, you may even say “my people aren't like that” Take a long hard look and observe the action of your people. When you ask for a “culture change” (meaning lets do something completely different) do they ACT, or do they follow the previous attitude of wait and see?
To bring about a true culture change in your dealership you must first evaluate your assets. These are your people. I would say that all of you would describe them as people who like the car business, that they genuinely want to help people that as salespeople they want to sell cars, that as service writers they want to sell customer pay, and more importantly they want to see the company grow. So why does the boulder roll backwards?
Knowing that you have good people working for you, knowing that they all want to succeed means you have the raw material to change the culture in your dealership.
1) Start with your commitment. When you want something done, do not compromise, do not take no for an answer, do not take prisoners. Accept only success for your plan. Ask yourself, am I accepting of mediocre performance because the company makes money? Or in other words, it must not hurt enough to change. Apathy is your enemy, complacency is the army apathy uses to keep things at the status quo. It uses excuses as artillery and false emotions as it’s spy’s.
2) Map out your plan. What is it you want to accomplish? For the purpose of this article we are going to use the goal to increase market share by 20%. Ask and answer all of the questions that will help you get there. Do I have enough sales people? Do I have enough marketing? Do I have the right structure?, Do I have the right Process?, Do I have enough inventory, etc… You will need to have in place all of the tools to accomplish your plan. It is so often that dealerships will say they want to increase market share but are unwilling to hire enough sales people to do that very thing. Or they don’t have enough inventory to sell in order to get that many more cars on the road.
have you ever wondered that when you have a great month in sales but your market share stayed the same. Why did that happen? Because the whole market grew, all of your competitors had a great month too. It didn't mean you conquested any new business, it just means you maintained your piece of the pie. So what really needs to happen in order to attain that goal?
3) Create Metrics. Once you have a goal in place you will need to measure your progress. In order to increase market share you will need to sell (x) many more cars than your competitors. and (x) many more than your goals that your manufacturers rep sets. What leads to those extra sales? Start with the basics. Set in place a way to measure the test drives, proposals, manager turns, appointments set, appointments show, appointments sold, leads, floor ups. All of these things are Key Performance Indicators (KPI’s). We all know that the car business is a numbers game, so many people, so many test drives, so many sales. So look to your CRM to provide this for you. MANDATE that everyone uses the CRM and you hold them accountable to it. Mention in your internal emails and memos a line that says “if it didn't happen in CRM, it didn't happen. Tie your salespeople's pay to the CRM usage. You know who is using and who is not using and more importantly who is faking. Call them on it, however this is where CRM gets tricky. If you use CRM like big brother and it is the bat you use to beat on your underperforming salespeople and look the other way with your top performers, you don’t understand how to manage with metrics or a CRM.
The CRM must be used as a coaching tool. If Johnny Salesman saw 100 people last month and he did 75 test drives, but only sold 4 cars what does that tell you? If you tell johnny he’s not doing his job and he needs to get more sales, he is going to game the system to make himself look better.
4) Training. The reason things don’t get done or they are not done very well is because people don’t know how to do them. Take Johnny Salesman. If he is seeing a lot of customers and doing a lot of test drive but selling few cars it is most likely that he does not know how to get the customer to a write up stage. Meet with Johnny one on one review, coach and most importantly ROLE PLAY with Johnny how to take the customer to a write up/offer stage. I cannot express enough how important roleplaying is. Your managers should be the ones to role play with the salespeople. They are the mentors and coaches of your sales team.
5) Shorten the runway. Many times leaders feel that they need to give others ample time to complete a task. This is usually due to the fact that in the past tasks assigned have not been completed or completed poorly. (see training). What takes place with a long time span to complete a task is that it is put on the back burner until the last week or the last day, and then it is given great focus to complete. The results are usually subpar. By shortening the runway or the time allotted to complete the task you employ your teams urgency and laser focus. If they need training they will request it.
6) Accountability. Sun Tzu’s book The Art of War, earned him an audience with the King of Wu, who said, “I have read your books, may I submit your theory of managing soldiers to a small test?”
Sun Tzu replied “Sir, you may.”
The King of Wu asked “Can the test be applied to women?”
Sun Tzu replied that it could, so arrangements were made to bring 180 beautiful women from the palace. Sun Tzu divided them into two troops with one of the King’s favourite concubines at the head of each. He then made all of them take spears in their hands and spoke to them: “I presume you know the difference between front and back, right and left?”
The women replied, “Yes. Of course”
Sun Tzu continued, “When to the sound of drums I order ‘eyes front,’ look straights ahead. When I order ‘left turn,’ face toward your left. When I order ‘right turn’, face toward your right. When I order turn around, face around to the back.
After the words of command had been explained, the women agreed they understood. He gave them spears so he could begin the drill. To the sound of drums, Sun Tzu ordered ‘right turn.’ In response the women burst out in laughter.
With great patience, Sun Tzu said, “If the instructions and words of command are not clear and distinct, if orders are not thoroughly understood, then the general is to blame.” He then repeated the explanations several times. This time he ordered the drums to signal ‘left turn,’ and again the women burst into laughter.
Then Sun Tzu said, “If the instructions and words of command are not clear and distinct, if orders are not thoroughly understood, the general is to blame. But if the commands are clear and the soldiers disobey, then it is the fault of the officers.” He immediately ordered the women who were at the head of the two troops to be beheaded.
Of course, the King was watching from a raised pavilion, and when he saw that his two favourite concubines were about to be executed, he was alarmed and swiftly sent down a message: “We are now quite satisfied as to the general’s ability to manage troops. Without these concubines, my food and drink will not taste good. It is the King’s wish that they not be beheaded.”
Sun Tzu replied, “Having received the sovereign’s commission to take charge and direct these troops, there are certain orders I cannot accept.” He immediately had the two concubines beheaded as an example and appointed the two next in line as the new leaders.
Now the drums were sounded and the drill began. The women performed all the maneuvers exactly as commanded. They drilled perfectly in precision and did not utter a single sound.
Sun Tzu sent a messenger to the King of Wu saying, “Your Majesty, the soldiers are now correctly drilled and perfectly disciplined. As sovereign, you may choose to require them to go through fire and water and they will not disobey.”
There are two lessons we need to gleen from this example. One is that we as leaders need to do all we can to educate and train our salespeople, BDC agents, and service advisors. It is our responsibility to create an environment of learning and teaching. Every opportunity you spend with your team should be an opportunity to mentor and teach them the skills that will help you to win the war.
The second lesson is that when you have done all that you can to teach, train, mentor, and instruct, only then is it time to show them the door. You must approach every situation when it comes to employees and their termination with one question in your mind. Have I done all I can to teach, explain, demonstrate and mentor this person. If the answer is yes. than make the change. It is easy to get hung up on the “he beheaded the concubines” side of the story. However, it is the most logical end to a situation that refuses to fix itself and perform in the manner that you have instructed.
Apply these lessons to the top salesperson in the dealership who refuses to use the CRM. If after you have done all that you can do and you don’t let him go, what message have you sent to your troops (the Salesforce) and King Wu (Owner, Dealer Principle). Conversely, if you do let him go because he refused to use the CRM, what message does that send. You will find that the people next in line will become your top producers and you will have full compliance with any initiative you put forward in your dealership. Your salesforce, sales managers and everyone in the dealership will “go through fire and water and they will not disobey.“
Putting these principles into place does not need to be hard. Employ help from others, the worst thing you can do is to do this alone. Sit down one on one with your managers tell them your plan, allow them to give you feedback and then ask them for their help.
We get so hung up on getting everyone's “buy in” that we lose site of the fact that the only one that needs to be bought in is you. You don’t need to ask permission to make changes in your dealership, you were given that when you accepted the job as the dealerships leader.
These are a few simple guidelines to get started. As you progress through this process you will encounter “interesting” obstacles that don’t conform to these guidelines, and that’s OK. Just simply ask this question. Is this derailing me and the dealership from changing the culture from good to great. If it is, don’t do it.
-Mark Winters
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Alex Lau
AutoStride
It's frustrating because dealerships are spending tons of money on tools that provide bogus leads or are buying them from companies that purchase them from non-credible sources. Crap in, you're going to get crap out...
Dennis Wagner
TheDennisWagner.com
Great stuff! A good CRM is no longer an option if you want to truly gauge your success rates, mine your current data base for previous customers that are again in the market and capture new business. All customers are not loyal.
Chris Vitale
iMagicLab
Very true and extremely well written Godfather. It's true, you don't need CRM to sell cars... TO THE 5% THAT ARE GOING TO SAY "YES" AND CLOSE ON THE FIRST VISIT, ON THE FIRST PENCIL. However, for the other 90% of your opportunities and the bulk for which you invest ad dollars, you need CRM.
Chris Vitale
iMagicLab
Oh, and "I just want to sell cars boss, I'm using your system..." Hahahahahaha classic.
Russ Chandler
PERQ
Well written Mark. This seems like a never ending topic that should just be common sense at this point. One thing I'm surprised CRM's and lead providers haven't expanded on that I think would help solve the problem Alexander Lau mentioned is a more robust profile on leads. Personally, I believe any customer who has engaged with your advertising/marketing is valuable . Many times dealers fall short here as they don't acquire or retain enough of the right information to understand when and how to capitalize on that value. Look across other industries and there is massive amounts of lead scoring and segmentation going on but just a few in automotive. I wouldn't be surprised to see this type of practice become more streamlined for faster extraction of more information from customers and streamlined to the sales rep through CRM's. Any thoughts?
Alex Lau
AutoStride
Thanks Russ! Good points and, yes, these type of articles are warranted and dealerships should appreciate them, at least the decision makers.
Bill Simmons
Haley Toyota Certified Sales Center
The use of the CRM has to start from the top down. If the GM does not have buy-in and enforces it, then it will not be used. A method that has helped me get our GM's attention recently is simply ask them to think back to the years 2009 to 2010. If our industry ever hits that downturn again, and it will, how well you use the CRM today will help you through the next dip. Let's not wait until business gets bad again to put good habits in place.
Russ Chandler
PERQ
Spot on Bill! I love taking that angle with your upper management. If there is anything that will resonate well it's definitely bringing up past times that were difficult. Utilizing your CRM as a preventative step towards surviving during tough times is valuable no matter how well your doing today.
Dennis Wagner
TheDennisWagner.com
Good points.. but most GM's have no clue how to properly use their CRM.
Bill Simmons
Haley Toyota Certified Sales Center
Good point Dennis, but the GM can sure drive the bus with his people to make sure it gets used properly. Actually, in our group some of our GM's are VERY CRM focused and use it daily.
Alex Lau
AutoStride
Exactly Dennis! The biggest problem of all, are the silly-heads with absolutely no understanding of technology or how to follow-up properly with customers or potential customers. PROCESSES; stick with the PROCESSES!
Megan Barto
Faulkner Nissan
Remember one of our cardinal rules "If It's Not In The CRM - it Didn't Happen!" soooo for example - if Salesperson A took an up on the lot a week ago, didn't enter the into the CRM, they come back today & don't mention their previous encounter with Salesperson A - and Salesperson B ups them - Salesperson A has ZERO right to the customers.
Dennis Wagner
TheDennisWagner.com
That great, Bill! You and I both know that is very rare.
Dennis Wagner
TheDennisWagner.com
Exactly Megan! No matter how much they cry in their Cheerios.
Mark Winters
DrivingSales
That's the key, the General Managers of the dealerships MUST use the CRM and be proficient at it. Dealerships need to eat, live, and breath from there CRM. Next to the DMS it's a heavy investment. When a GM doesn't use the CRM neither does anyone else. The sad thing is that GM's look at CRM as something to be used by the employee's. "That's why I have sales managers and a GSM". Dealerships who have a GM using the CRM are the ones growing.
Dennis Wagner
TheDennisWagner.com
I agree Mark. They are being proactive. There aren't many of those is the problem, but the ones who use it are exceptional leaders normally. As you all know, the CRM is a Gold Mine just sitting there waiting for miners.
C L
Automotive Group
I look at this 2 ways because I have been on both sides of the fence. Not saying there are any excuses out there for it not to be used. When i sold cars I used the heck out the CRM, When I was in media advertising I used the heck out the CRM and even when I was running my own little agency by myself I used the out of the little CRM I paid for (Nutshell in case you were wondering) My 1st opinion is this. The dealership CRM tools that are available have such a high barrier to entry. Understanding the functions, logic and reasoning that power them will often lead a person with my extensive technological background to find it cumbersome and sometimes annoying to navigate. If that's my experience then what's it like for someone with a fraction of my knowledge. Dealer CRM's are not easy, they are not agile and as a sales person I'd have a really tough time wanting to invest time, willpower and brain capacity to understanding the hypothetical situations of how this thing is supposed to pay me. You can't expect people to want to use a tool all day that in their mind is the equivalent of going to the DMV. The CRM's that I have used for dealerships lack all elements of logical predictability and lastly are completely void of design. It's almost as if UI/UX is still an after thought. It's scary how much my little bit of coding knowledge gets used daily inside of our CRM. Luckily i'm a total freakin nerd and spend my days off on code academy learning programming languages. I know, I know... NERD ALERT! My saving grace is that i've got cool hair... I think... Now my 2nd opinion: The CRM's that we bring into our dealerships have been put in place for a reason and that reason we all know is because we see the value. That being said the usage of a CRM has to become a non-negotiable flat out. Who cares if the GM or owner uses it or not. It doesn't matter. There should be no excuse why the "option" to use certain things is even up for negotiation. The guy at macy's doesn't get to choose if he uses the POS system at the counter to ring me up or not. It's simply not an option for him. CRM's along with DMS's are integrated into our organizations for a purpose. The purpose and reasons behind that, sit solely with and at the organizational level. That's it, enough said. There is not a single job out there that will allow you to not use the tools they provide and also allow you to keep your job. I can respect the opinion that success of the crm should sit upon the managers and that people will follow what the managers do. But I can't help but compare that to potty training a child. Because it seems like the same exact thing and we all know what the value of making it in the bowl is right. If you allow for exceptions than you should just get rid of it all together and let everyone do their business where ever and how ever and hope that the mess isn't to bad to clean up at the end of the month. Like I said before these are just my opinions but I really do think that the 2 reasons why people don't use CRM's is simply because they suck to use and we're all too soft and fearful to enforce it as a non negotiable. I've used amazing CRM's in other industries that are a fraction of the price and look and function exactly how they should. The dealership CRM has been forced to function and build in the directions more aligned with a DMS than a CRM and thats unfortunate because they should be and act differently. I blame us dealers for that one. I could be totally wrong in my opinions though. But, I do love that we are talking about this because to me, like all of you, this is a really important topic.
Mark Winters
DrivingSales
Chris, Rock and Roll!!!
Robert Niven
Sunnyside Acura
Getting the right information into the CRM is a definite must in order to properly follow up with a client now and in the future. Keeping your CRM up to date is also a never ending task. Daily, weekly and monthly cleaning of "bad leads", vendor prospecting and incomplete "space-holder" entries are always on the list. It's a good practice to validate your email addresses as well with an outside source if you see your open rates dropping.
Mark Winters
DrivingSales
Talking about garbage in garbage out. If you look through your CRM and you see a customer with the first name of "RED" and last name of "SHIRT" then you have garbage. Without having a CRM campion/manager or holding your sales managers accountable to maintaining the DATA in CRM then you have garbage. Robert you said it right It is a never ending task to merge, monitor and maintain your data. These are your customers. You paid 500 to 700 to get that customer to interface with your salespeople. Don't you want to know what happened? If you are looking at your data everyday, you will be able to manage it better and eliminate most of the garbage.