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I've never been a Boy Scout but I think like one
By Autumn 2003, I had (a meager) seven years of Internet Automotive success under my belt. I was managing a nine-franchise Internet Sales Department that encompassed five rooftops in Portland OR and Vancouver WA. New Car sales were really starting to get brutal. Every other conversation contained the words “Dave Smith” and “Kellogg, Idaho”. We pursued, and received, very few pre-owned vehicle inquiries and credit inquiries were only pursued if they were for A or B tier customers.
And then I got the phone call that would change the direction of my career.
The phone caller had submitted an inquiry on a new car. But he was pretty sure that he wouldn’t qualify for financing, so he was calling to see if there was any way for him to purchase a vehicle.
His story reminds me of the deals we started seeing in 2008 - really great customers, with really big problems. He was going through a divorce, his house was in foreclosure and he was three months late on the mortgage, credit cards were maxed, other debt racking up, it was a pretty pitiful story. His car had just been repossessed and he just needed something to pick up his kids and get to work in. Suffice it to say, his future as a car buyer looked pretty bleak…
Until he gave me the golden nugget that got him into a beautiful silver Ford Taurus mere hours later - he had worked for the same company for sixteen years. It wasn’t a lot, but it was something. His story was good. He had longevity and income. Even so, there was no way that any of the stores I worked with would work this deal (in fact, one GM laughed heartily), but I knew someone who would.
Jeff Carrier was the Managing Partner of Metro Auto Wholesale at that time. I had met him earlier that year in Las Vegas at the AutoDealerDaily.com Internet Marketing Conference where he claimed the
Pre-Owned Retailer of the Year award for the second year in a row. In an article written by Greg Goebel: “Particularly noteworthy is that the managing partner, Jeff Carrier, stated that 75 percent of his 2,869 Internet-based pre-owned sales in 2003 were Special Finance sales! That is roughly 175 per month.”
I knew, if there was a snowball’s chance in hell that my guy was gonna get bought, Jeff Carrier was going to get it done.
Well, as it turns out, that’s exactly what happened. I TO’d the deal to Jeff, and the customer called me four hours later, crying, thanking me.
That’s when it hit me. I didn’t know ANYTHING about selling used cars, and even less about the sub-prime market. A couple more of these situations came up, and each time I called upon Jeff’s expertise and the powerful combination of process, inventory and lenders that he’d amassed at Metro. Ultimately, I bailed on the New Car $100 over invoice program, and happily jumped into the sub-prime pool without looking back.
The next two years would be eye opening to say the least, and I count myself very lucky indeed that I was able to learn at the elbow of one of the sub-prime Masters of the Universe. I learned about the importance of having the right inventory. I learned that having a lot of lenders isn’t as important as having a lot of lender relationships. I learned that there was a “right way” to “do” sub-prime and still generate gross. “Ability, Stability and Willingness to Pay” became my mantra.
In 2005, I took maternity leave and moved to Central Oregon. I consulted, I worked in a new Ford store, and I watched as the sub-prime market began its downward spiral. We all know what happened. Credit lines shriveled, dealers shuttered their stores, sub-prime essentially vanished.
I wrote a blog post back in October of 2010 heralding the return of Spi-Fi, but it has been a slow road. And now it is 2012, and the sub-prime drums are beating more loudly. I’m sure you’ve seen all of the articles I have that speak to the optimism for this segment in 2012
2008 was the “apocalypse”. In 2009, only the big dogs were left and virtually all of the small lenders evaporated. In 2010, and 2011, the market was sort of status quo, but this year, goals and the competition are up. Everyone wants a bigger portfolio, and sub-prime is the “foot in the door” toward that end.
More consumers are coming out of the woodwork, and one lender exec. estimates that average credit scores are probably lower than they were before the crash, but the consumer buying power is way up. A 560 beacon score with any sort of equity is looking at rates as low as 9.25% - and that is a far cry from what we’ve been dealing with the last few years.
Spi-Fi is not, then, making a comeback, as far as the lenders and consumers are concerned, it IS back.
Now, I’m not suggesting that a dealer should target 75% of their bank of business at the sub-prime level, but I’ve had enough dealers say that they’re “gearing up for it” that I believe that we’re going to see a much greater demand for new and improved tools and processes to facilitate a bigger share of sub-prime deals hitting the bottom line. And that, after all of the above, is really what I wanted to talk about.
Technology has improved the face of every aspect of operations since 2008. Shouldn’t it be the same for your sub-prime “department”?
I had one dealer say to me the other day that he KNOWS how much data is out there, and yet, he feels that his sub-prime lead sources are “weak”. Another dealer told me that he’s virtually desperate to find quality sub-prime lead sources, but that everything he’s got access to now seems recycled, unfiltered, and not worth what he’s paying.
Personnel and training are another place where sub-prime has been sort of shoved into a closet. I fear that this has resulted in desk managers who are about as skilled at structuring a sub-prime deal as I was in 2003. In fact, I have dealer friend who was active in Spi-Fi during its heyday who is getting ready to release training material that teaches today’s Managers how to deal with sub-prime because there is such a gaping hole in that area of expertise at the store level.
Now, I have an assertion, and it might not be popular, but here it goes. I don’t think much of anything in the sub-prime lead gen biz or in dealer processes has changed. I mean, how could it? With “off” revenues, how could these companies invest in R&D and turn out new products? How many Spi-Fi departments were ramped up vs. how many were shut down?
So, the lenders are ready, and the consumers are ready, but are you ready? Do you have a plan, qualified partners to help you execute your plan, and the personnel to carry the ball to the goal line? Do you have a Sub-Prime Business Readiness plan?
I spent some time the other day looking for people talking about this and I came up empty handed. The lenders and news agencies are talking about it, but I want to hear what YOU have to say.
Oh, and by the way, Happy New Year!
Fortune favors the prepared mind.
Louis Pasteur
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"It's All Good": The Return of Spi-Fi
I remember sitting in my office at Robberson Ford two years ago. It was a beautiful day not unlike today, clear but cold. I was having a terrible conversation with a gentleman who had submitted an inquiry on a pre-owned vehicle. He’d been a mortgage broker for the previous 25 years, and, like so many of the real estate affiliated customers I’d been talking to then, he’d fallen on hard times. His story was pretty sad. Big fat house in Bend, OR, second home in Tahoe, delinquent mortgages on both. Audi A8, Porsche Cayenne, both 90+ days late. Under water in the homes, upside down in both vehicles. No income for months, so definitely no cash down. He just desperately wanted there to be a good answer. I certainly didn’t have one for him. And I’ve thought about that guy many many times over the past two years, wondering what ultimately happened and how he facilitated his vehicular needs. I mean, a guy with an 800+ beacon history that tanks everything inside a year has got to have a comeback story right?
I’ve also been thinking about the comeback of Special Finance for months now. I’m right in the thick of some entrepreneurial ventures that will be facilitating solutions for the automotive sector when it comes to prospecting and fulfillment in the Spi Fi realm, and I’ve had a LOT of conversations about where we’re heading.
I just read a blog post by a fellow I don’t know, but hope to. Autofinancenews.net is where I found him and his name is JJ Hornblass. JJ just got back from the Auto Finance Summit I wish I’d been attending this last week in Vegas. (Yep, I would have forgone DD9 to be there, call me crazy). You see, the financing component is “the thing” that keeps hanging up my conversations with my dealer principal pals. There isn’t anyone I’ve found who wouldn’t like to be selling more cars. The hesitance to push the Spi Fi “button” comes from the inability to facilitate loans for the customers who walk in the door right now as a result of traditional marketing. Time and time again, I’ve heard the story that the “lenders still aren’t buying”. So I was glad to find JJ’s blog post, which was encouraging, and echoed the sentiments represented in a lot of the articles I’ve been reading and re-posting on ADM and Facebook – that “auto finance is back and is only getting better.”
Don’t get me wrong. I’m not naïve about this wildly exciting and downright grindingly dirty side of our business. I pulled two years in a single point pre-owned store that occupied three dingy city blocks and rolled 300 cars a month, 75%+ of which were sub-sub-prime. We had relationships with upwards of 20 lenders (we were not BHPH), more than half of which have evaporated from the face of the planet. That business model did not survive the economic collapse, and the echoes of our jingle “working with you and working for you” are all that is left of what was once a thriving representation of some serious capitalism.
I get it. It is to be a long road. I guess my point is that, after the GM acquisition of Americredit, the resecuritization of CPS and Prestige, numerous lenders publicly “loosening” their guidelines to facilitate an increased supply of loans for the current and future demand, and all of the other favorable press on this topic, are YOU getting ready to push “the button”?
There’s a lot that goes into a successful Spi-Fi venture. You’ve got to have the right marketing. You’ve got to have the right fulfillment to process your prospects. You’ve got to have the right mentality, the right people working for you, the right lender relationships, and the right inventory. I personally know dealers who absolutely will not EVER, and I mean NEVER engage in the sub-prime arena, and I totally respect that. On the flip side, there are dealers who have thought about it and who are thinking about it right this very minute.
So what if I told you, if you’re in the latter category, that there’s a beacon of hope on the horizon to facilitate whichever components of your Spi-Fi “set up” you don’t currently have in place or that you’ve been struggling with? To put it differently, what if I told you “there’s an app for that”? Yes, this paragraph is a shameless plug for the services we will be providing through a company that is soon to be revealed. The point of my saying this, however, is not to promote what we do as the end all be all turn-key solution to a dealer’s Spi-Fi dreams, but to stir up some conversation about what challenges you currently face that are keeping you from pushing the button, or from being successful if you pushed the button a while back.
In my travels in the past 90 days, I’ve spoken with high volume lead generators, direct mail experts, call center gurus, SEO powerhouses, guys who’ve built sub-prime lending arms for some of the biggest banks in our business, and literally every single one of them is gearing up to facilitate supply solutions for sub-prime market demand. They’re either ready right now, or they’re literally days away from being ready to facilitate whatever program you want to put together. So here’s my challenge to you: let’s stop talking about the “possibility” of a special finance comeback and let’s start talking about how to become truly successful in the Special Finance realm in today’s market
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What would you rather do – perform better (ie: close more or generate more gross profit) from your current opportunities to do business OR generate more opportunities to do business.
For me, the answer is obvious. Unfortunately, many of the dealer contacts I’ve been making don’t seem to respond as well to offers of methods for doing better as they do generating more traffic. And I want to talk about why not.
I had a conversation yesterday with one of our industry’s leading movers and shakers regarding marketing products and services to dealers and what the “hot buttons” are in today’s dealership climate. We agreed that “Traffic” and “ Decreased Expenses” (which I equate to lower cost per customer) and “Enhanced SEO” were all high priority issues for the automotive community. I’d probably throw in “Social Media” and “Reputation Management” for good measure, but I do think the first three garner the greater attention in terms of relevance to the bottom line on a day to day, month to month basis.
As we were talking, I realized that, in many instances, as an industry, we’re still stuck on the idea that MORE traffic is the key to our salvation. (Now I’m completely generalizing, so for those of you who track your true opportunities to do business like an IRS agent, I applaud you and am not grouping you into this bunch.) And while I don’t necessarily disagree that shifting the distribution of power in any given market is a bad thing, I have to say, I think the idea of grabbing more opportunities without doing more with the opportunities we already have is a gluttonous recipe for disaster.
I want to go on the record - I’m not an advocate of more traffic. I don’t want my dealer clients to buy more leads, or generate more leads of their own until they’re doing their best with the leads they already have. In fact, until they’re doing the best possible job with the leads they have, I’d advocate cutting all paid third party leads sources because that’s just dealer money flying out the window!
Here’s another way of looking at it, and its one I bet you can relate to. Say you’ve gained a few pounds. And now you’ve got high cholesterol, high blood pressure, sleep apnea, aching joints, and the list goes on. You go see your doctor, and your doctor gives you three prescriptions. You go to the drug store, get those pill bottles, and start taking your meds. Six months go by, and your symptoms have diminished – slightly – but you’re still not right. Your significant other is pretty health conscious and turns you on to a naturopathic physician who changes your diet, gets you on an exercise program, and has you start taking vitamins and nutritional supplements. Six months later, you’re an entirely different person! You throw those pill bottles away, and laugh at the guys on your staff who can’t keep up with you any more.
That’s where I’m at. After fifteen years of advancement in process and technology, I’m just flat tired of seeing the dealer body taking prescription after prescription for ailments that are inherently curable through behavior modification and a regimen of hard work and discipline.
What I’m really talking about is conversion; the total number of deals we close relative to the number of opportunities we have to do business. After the conversation I had yesterday, I think I’ll probably be talking about conversion until our industry numbers start to change.
Our nationwide industry numbers suck. On average, an automotive dealership converts 5 to 8% of their inbound Internet inquiries to sales. And on average, our Internet gross sales profit is far below that of the retail department. These are the SAME numbers that we posted 14 years ago. Really? Are we no better 14 years later? And why not?
I spent time in the
As a National Trainer for Hyperdrive Systems and the Mastery Council, I’ve been made privy to some phenomenal sales training principles that were generated by someone I have a lot of respect for. Eddie Coleman coined the phrase “conversion” back in the nineties, and was the first person who showed me that not only could I close more deals than I thought I could, but I could make more gross than I ever imagined possible. His Mastery Council ™ principles have been implemented in stores across the country, and continue to make the difference for dealers who are brave enough to buck the ingrained trends. I won’t share the secrets of his Shake ‘N Bake recipe here, but I will say that there is no doubt in my mind that what we teach completely changes the dynamic in the market for our customers. It’s almost an unfair advantage that our customers gain. And, because we’re market exclusive, we create clear winners.
That said, I’ll get to where I really wanted to go with this post.
About two months ago, I became aware of a video sales system that a childhood friend of mine has refined over the past two years.
Now I’ve used video for a long time. I remember one of my dealers being all excited about the Flip camera a few years ago, and we started utilizing YouTube and attaching video to email to increase our conversion and our competitive relevancy. It worked. I’ll give the Flip supporters that. It did work.
But this new thing, this Virtual Cyber Sales System, this thing – it’s leagues beyond where we were with our Flip. It took my friend Scott Tanner about 30 minutes to run me through the full presentation, and by the time he was done, I was hooked. I have been looking for a tool that would enable me or one of my clients to completely differentiate ourselves from the competition and this, my friends, is it.
Scott Tanner had a dream. Literally. And in his dream, he was able to communicate in a wireless streaming video environment in real time with his sales prospects. He went looking for and found one of the leading streaming video hosting companies in the world and partnered with them to bring his dream to life.
The Virtual Cyber Sales System (VCSS) is hands down, the most cost effective, time saving, lightweight yet powerful, high definition video broadcasting system on the market today that not only enables you to quickly record personalized HD video messages to your prospects and service customers, interface instantly with your Social Media profiles (FB, Twitter, and YouTube), post quickly to Craigslist, and allows to you broadcast LIVE. That’s right, LIVE.
I’ll get into all the rest of the comparative advantages here in a minute, but the question was posed to me yesterday “aren’t there other devices out there that allow you to do that”? My answer, was “Yes, but they’re prohibitively expensive” and/or more cumbersome to use. The reality is that for about $8000 you could have a slightly smaller device that will transmit streaming video in HD – but you wouldn’t have many of the other features that you would with the VCSS. And, for about double that amount, you could strap a backpack to your back and broadcast from just about anywhere on the planet if you could figure out how to use the thing, but here again, without the features that make the VCSS “so easy, a salesman can use it” (that’s a real quote from one of our dealers!)
Our goal, with the current configuration of hardware and software was to provide retail sales (not just automotive, we’re talking: RV, Real Estate, Yacht, Furniture, etc.) professionals with the ability to easily (VALUE STATEMENT #1: EASE OF USE), quickly (VS #2: This thing is FAST), and cost effectively (VS #3: So affordable, you won’t believe it) communicate with a prospect in real time.
Why can’t you do this with the hot new HD Flip camera? Well, for one, Flip doesn’t stream live. And, even without that handicap, it simply takes longer, sometimes much longer, to download a Flip video and process it for distribution. Time is MONEY! With the VCSS, your retail sales people literally have a green button for “go” and a red button for “stop” and they’re done with the device. While they go process their video for distribution with a few clicks of a mouse, their team mate is out on the lot shooting his latest customer testimonial or showing that customer 500 miles away the features and benefits of your pre-owned “one of a kind” whatever it might be.
Now I had someone ask me “well, what about the dealers who believe that streaming live video defeats the intent of getting the customer into the store?” That’s a great question! The key to maximizing this tool is in the training and implementation that Tanner and our team provide. Certainly, if your customer is 15 minutes away and inquiring about a specific vehicle, you’d be remiss to do a ten minute walk around for him or her live – you’d NEVER want to do that! But would you want to be the one to get back to them with a personalized v-mail in half the time it takes you to process one of your templated email responses? If we accept theory that he who responds first wins (which I don’t believe, but that’s another conversation) how about being FIRST with video?? You simply cannot do that with your Flip – it takes longer and there are more steps. I have trained enough sales professionals in the last fifteen years to know what the barriers to use are. If it is easy, they will try. If it makes more car deals, they will try harder. THAT is why the VCSS is in a league all its’ own when it comes to video solutions for the automotive industry.
So what about the iPhone or other handheld devices? How do they stack up against VCSS? They don’t. Quite simply, these devices are limited by bandwidth, screen size, resolution, and power. I mean, really. I have a 46 year old friend who is a 2 handicap, but can he read a score card without his reading glasses? NO! So how can we really expect the majority of our sales professionals to be able to process high quality video on a tiny little device? And these devices simply don’t have the juice to do what the VCSS does.
Here’s the thing. Everyone knows they should be using video. Video represents a huge focus of SEO experts, marketing gurus, and social media mavens. Video enables you to personalize your responses to the people who are expressing interest in doing business with you. It shortens the purchase cycle because your prospects gain a clearer impression of who you are and what you’re about. You can sell your expertise, the culture of your dealership, and create more rapport - faster. You can thank your customers, re-market to your customer base, promote causes and events that you support, solidify your social media relationships. You can drive more appointments, sell more cars, sell more service, reduce your total cost per customer, increase your net profit and CSI.
So if you aren’t using video in all of these ways right now, why not? And if you are utilizing video, is it fast? Is it easy? Do your sales people and service writers incorporate video into the fabric of their daily operations?
The Virtual Cyber Sales System was Scott Tanner’s dream, but it has become a reality and is being used in dealerships across the nation by sales professionals who want to lead, not follow.
So how does this relate to the first part of my post? Well, ask yourself, in a competition for your prospect’s attention, how do you fare? Are you a stand out? Are you giving it your all all of the time? Do you have something “more” or something “extra” that your competitors don’t have?
Video brochures are nice – how many of your competitors use them? Response Logix auto response system is cool, and sure facilitates a solution to the iron fisted OEM requirements, but is it really a differentiator? My fear, with tools like the ones I’m mentioning here, is that we’ll keep getting further and further away from what the car business is really about in the first place – YOU selling your prospect a car. I don’t know of a better way for you to begin your selling process than by introducing yourself to your prospects via the VCSS.
I’ve seen a lot of cool stuff in the last fifteen years, but this is by far one of the best. Ronsmap and vBack are right up there too, but that is also a different conversation.
Do you want to do better? Do you want to convert more of your opportunities to do business into customers? Do you want to generate more gross profit per deal? Statistically, the Virtual Cyber Sales System is one of the products out there, available to you RIGHT NOW, will enable you to accomplish your goals. What are you waiting for?
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