Patrick Bergemann

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Patrick Bergemann

Image Auto LLC

May 5, 2018

A Conversation with Dale Pollak: Leaving a Legacy for the Industry

We had the pleasure to speak with Dale Pollak for the latest episode of the Dealers Compressed podcast. As expected, he had numerous insights on the state of the automotive industry, customer experience, addressing compressed margins, and much more.

All automotive specific points aside, it was touching to hear Dale's "why". When asked what he wanted his legacy to be in the industry, the answer is something I think we can all identify with. It doesn't come from a success or financial position, it comes from the heart.


In an era where we're all asking "how do I make more money?", it's important to remember to ask "how does this fit my customer?"

We all want to make more money. Even if we aren't money-driven people, we recognize the necessity of money in facilitating opportunity and growth. But we have to remember that there's no "get rich quick" solution or "magic" tool that will net us long-term solutions to making more money.

The reality is, making more money comes with pivoting our business back to our "why". Focusing on your position in the community and how you fit in to the community you serve will position your dealership for long-term growth and success.

What do you want your legacy to be?

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Image Auto LLC

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Patrick Bergemann

Image Auto LLC

Apr 4, 2018

The Future of Automotive Sales

When I first joined the DrivingSales community, I posted about how the dealership model could become obsolete thanks to Amazon. Everyone pushed back saying that "Amazon won't sell cars", "Everyone wants to sell cars online, but they don't understand how hard it is", and "It's impossible to eliminate every point of friction online."

You're all right. Selling such a large asset online isn't perfect. But that wasn't the point.

Your dealership can still fail and it can still be Amazon's fault even if they never sell a single car.

Have you shopped on Amazon? It's awesome. You order something, it's cheaper than in most stores, and it's in your hands two days later. Add in their consistency and exceptional customer service and you've got a winning formula.

Point being: Amazon has completely changed consumer culture.


With a few keystrokes and a click, you can find exactly what you want at a price you're willing to pay. Retail giants tried to combat this with price matching, but Toys'R'Us still paid the price. Kindle opened the door into the tech space that eventually became Alexa; a device that tech giants like Apple and Google find themselves chasing. Amazon keeps pushing the bar and household names find themselves fighting to compete. 

If dealerships are not ready to match this level of service, customers are going to find someone who will. Those resistant to change generally jump in arguing how Beepi and Vroom failed and Carvana reported losses last year. Well, good news...no one has figured out the formula yet. But let's stop acting like they won't.

The video above features a skit envisioning a car sale in the near-future. I think it's the most realistic option to online retailing. A customer starts a transaction online so once they show up on the lot, they have their trade appraised, conduct a test-drive, and they're done. It's not frictionless, but it's a lot more customer friendly than the current model.

It's time we start serving customers the way they want to be served. The current model of forcing them to do business our way has built the stigma of expecting a hassle at a dealership. Our friends over at DealerSuccess have a tool called VirtualDeal that is already bringing the bulk of the sales process online and their customers love it. Even better, the customers of their customers love it.

So...to summarize...why do customers hate giving up their information to get basic information? Because Amazon. Why do customers do so much research before they buy a product? Because Amazon. Why do customer reviews hold so much weight? Because Amazon.

They might not be selling cars, but they've certainly changed our culture. It's time we get ahead and figure out the formula for OUR industry before they do.

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Image Auto LLC

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10 Comments

Brandin Wilkinson

Woodworth Chrysler Dodge Jeep Ram Ltd.

Apr 4, 2018  

Love this

Patrick Bergemann

Image Auto LLC

Apr 4, 2018  

Thanks Brandin! Are there any practices you've implemented in your dealership to help accommodate the culture shift?

Brandin Wilkinson

Woodworth Chrysler Dodge Jeep Ram Ltd.

Apr 4, 2018  

No problem Patrick, we share the same outlook on the future of auto sales.  I founded a startup last fall that is projected to be launched in August this year that we believe is the solution to this inevitable reality. It's a win/win for the consumer and the dealer.  There is an incredible amount of detail that goes into the website and app, we want to make sure we get it right. We're calling it BidzAuto. 

 

Apr 4, 2018  

Guys I just don't see it. There is no way you can do this with used cars and stats still show that most buyers prefer having the human element when making a purchase as large as this. Everyone is trying so darn hard to go virtual that we're missing the key factor to a sale, PEOPLE. 

Brandin Wilkinson

Woodworth Chrysler Dodge Jeep Ram Ltd.

Apr 4, 2018  

We're still incorporating the human element.  We're leaving it up to the client to decide how much of the sales process they want to complete online, so we're leaving that decision on them. Stats also show that people want transparency, convenience, and a faster sales process. It's going to be a controversial subject until someone proves there is a winning formula, and as mentioned in the previous comment, we believe BidzAuto has that winning formula.

Patrick Bergemann

Image Auto LLC

Apr 4, 2018  

Amanda, I agree that the human element is crucial. That's why I prefaced that "selling online" doesn't mean "click here to buy". It means adapting the process to meet the consumer needs.

If your salespeople are incredible that a customer would never get sick of dealing with them, I applaud you on your company culture. Ours is very similar. Customers love working with our techs because they're genuinely passionate about helping PEOPLE, not the specific type of work they do. But even with company culture like this, we still fight the stigma of the automotive world where in generations past salespeople would make a killing in marking up cars and mechanics used shady tactics to charge for work that didn't need to be done. Online transparency exposed this distrust and we find ourselves fighting to reassure people that we aren't any like that.

The stats show that 99% of shoppers expect a hassle, 87% dislike something about the process, 61% feel they're being taken advantage of, 52% feel anxious while at the dealership, and 75% would visit dealerships more if something about the process changed. While stats say that people want a human element, it doesn't mean they enjoy what they're currently being served.

The ideal process still involves a salesperson! But the salesperson should be focused on the customer's best interests and shopping experience, not the sale of the car. An online tool cutting out the busywork makes dealerships more efficient and shows value to the customer's time. It's the perfect marriage of technological convenience and a human element to serve the customer the way they want to be served.

Brandin...I love your mentality and I'm excited to see the things you put out. The tech sounds like the tool this industry needs.

Bart Wilson

DrivingSales

Apr 4, 2018  

One of our DSES keynotes last year was David R Bell.  He has a book titled Location is (Still) Everything and he makes a case for a brick and mortar establishment, but not in its current form.  He suggests that customers prefer a more "boutique" type of shop, where they can interact with the product at their pace.

I think what we're all saying is that people prefer to shop their way, not our way.  We need to provide opportunities, both online and off line, for customers to shop in a way they feel comfortable.

Patrick Bergemann

Image Auto LLC

Apr 4, 2018  

I couldn't have said it better myself. Serve customers the way they want to be served.

Even if an online solution led to cutting time in the dealership for most customers, there's no reason that same dealership shouldn't have at least two team members available to help in a traditional sales fashion. To go 100% online would still be forcing people to shop our way, just a modernized version.

Kelly Kleinman

Dealership News

Apr 4, 2018  

Hey Bart, location is everything, even on the SERPs!  I was hoping for an ironic twist here, but what goes for a B&M location, goes for top ad positioning or organic page rank as well.  I think the smart people do most of the posting here.  

Kelly Kleinman

Dealership News

Apr 4, 2018  

Patrick is my new BFF.  Seriously.  What Amazon did was cut through all of the layers of BS and said, "Here is a product guaranteed to be the cheapest price online, and you can have it tomorrow".  They scrape the Internet every 20 mins or seconds (I forget) and if they find a lower price, they lower their price for the same product 2-5% from what I experienced.  To filter sales from Amazon (hard to do) a business has to either have some absurd value add or GWP, that Amazon can't offer.  WTS, Amazon's model of lowest price guarantee has too many holes in it to work with used cars since they are all essentially one-offs.  My other new favorite Amanda is correct on this issue.  I wish she'd let me interview her for my podcast.

Patrick Bergemann

Image Auto LLC

Mar 3, 2018

Taking Care of Your Biggest Investment

 

No, it isn't your inventory. It's your people.

Turnover rates in the automotive industry are atrocious. Our founder recently spoke with Adam Robinson, founder and CEO of Hireology, and he passed along an anecdote of a time early in his career where he would train a dealership on software, just to have them call him back three months later because the staff he trained had all left.

Culture matters. If we can't keep employees happy, they won't stick around. If they don't stick around, we're constantly replacing them. This brings a vicious cycle of fighting to create culture in an environment that is constantly changing. How will we ever create anything effective in an environment like that?!

You might be saying "well, that really doesn't affect my business", but studies say otherwise. A 2015 study by the University of Warwick shows that happier employees are 12% more productive. Adam even suggested to consider how constantly being short-staffed affects your billable time. You could be constantly short one employee... or worse, you have your most proficient employee training the new guy and now it feels like you're short a team of people.

See...happy employees lead to higher retention and happier customers. They'll get personal service in a reasonable timeframe. The customer can feel the difference when an employee treats them with genuine concern for their needs. They don't feel they're being taken advantage or that they're only being taken care of on because a company policy says to check in with each customer twice.

Trust is valued significantly higher than price. Building a culture of trust with your employees will breed a culture of trust with your customers.

What do you think? Have you made any efforts to make your staff your priority?

Patrick Bergemann

Image Auto LLC

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Paul J Daly

Congruent

Mar 3, 2018  

I just spent the week at NADA observing immense offerings to help dealers track and measure attribution, engagement and sales. It is SO logical that a solution to do the same with dealers' teams should follow suit. The ONE thing that dealers can control is who they put on their team and whether or not they create a culture that regards their value. 

Patrick Bergemann

Image Auto LLC

Mar 3, 2018

Will Dealers Become Obsolete Thanks To Amazon?

 

Do you feel like you're struggling to keep up with the changes in the industry? Advancements in technology and changes in consumer culture are constantly pushing forward, but the "current" business model for dealers has been more or less the same for decades.

When 99% of customers EXPECT a hassle, shouldn't we admit something needs to change? Think about it...as a child, most people hated going to the dentist. There's this person shoving tools in your mouth asking you how school is expecting you to answer. What's fun about that?

If you enjoyed the experience, wouldn't you be less apprehensive going back? If you were less apprehensive about the whole situation, wouldn't you feel less skeptical about everything the professional was telling you? I mean, we can all agree that sugar rots your teeth, but if the dentist hadn't just made you uncomfortable while telling you that, wouldn't you be more likely to heed their advice when they also told you to floss daily?

We can thank Amazon for this rapid shift in consumer culture. They've created such an enjoyable consumer experience that if something showed up more than 2 days after you've ordered it, you'd be asking for a full refund. It's this kind of friction-free shopping experience buyers crave in ALL transactions. A panel of automotive leaders at the Agent2021 conference even predicted Amazon will begin testing an automotive sales model by the end of 2018. I don't think any of us are ready for that.

So I ask...at what point are we going to realize something NEEDS to change? At what point will we admit that people don't trust us? At what point will we take ownership of changing the poor perception of the industry?

Our company, Image Auto, is taking the first step in that direction. We've produced a full web-series for auto dealers asking absolutely NOTHING in return. As a reconditioning company, we know that our business will become obsolete if the dealership model fails. We are simply a small, but engaged contributor.

You can sign up to be notified of new episode releases at DealersCompressed.com. We promise we're not selling you anything. We simply ask that you spread the word and share this content with every dealer or automotive expert you know. Something needs to change before we're all the rusty junker in the compactor.

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Kelly Kleinman

Dealership News

Mar 3, 2018  

Amazon is amazing, just got a baseball bat for the kids on a Sunday, a day earlier than expected.  WTS, not sure how'd they ever corner the market on used inventory.  Maybe they buy fleets and off-lease inventory en masse, build a big classified like Carmax and go for it.

Mar 3, 2018  

I ADORE and massively respect Amazon but EVERYONE tries to get into the car game and quickly finds out how challenging it can be. Especially when it comes to pre-owned. 

Patrick Bergemann

Image Auto LLC

Mar 3, 2018  

If anyone is up for the challenge, it's Amazon. I'm sure if you had asked a grocery store executive in 1998 if they could ever see this new online bookseller owning the largest organic grocery store chain they'd say "Selling books is one thing, but selling groceries is a different challenge. They won't succeed." Now that online bookseller owns Whole Foods and sells perishable goods through Amazon Fresh.

They've already started testing the process selling new Fiats through the site in Italy.  Experts are saying they'll go the Carmax route, but as they grow, I could see them buying dealerships and using them as distribution centers. Eventually, it will hit a level of join or die.

With Amazon Vehicle being a system to help users figure out what vehicle would be best for them, they're already developing a system that would integrate well with "This is the type of car you want, we have this many at your local distribution center or we can have the luxury model shipped there in 2 days."

Mari Campuzano

DealerSuccess

Mar 3, 2018  

Amanda, I totally agree with you. Reports last week were dismal at best with Carvana losses of $47 million Q4 of 2017 as reported by Automotive News and Vroom allegedly preparing to lay off up to 50% of its staff (Tech Crunch article). I've worked many dealerships nationwide and Canada helping them implement digital retailing and geo-targeted marketing platforms and those who have been early adopters of these types of tools have increased margins. We can't lose sight of dealership processes and relate to consumers on a personal level. Humans still want human interaction and I think this is the biggest challenge facing mega online dealerships. How will a consumer be committed to a dealership that they have zero emotional connection with? Yes, Amazon is the most amazing company on the planet. But, there's a much different emotion attached to buying small ticket items online than an automobile consumers are normally financing. In my opinion, dealer's will not become obsolete any time soon. But, all dealers, whether independent or dealer group, need to implement a digital retailing tool and provide the consumer with a personal 'experience' from the time they hit the dealers online showroom or website.

Paul J Daly

Congruent

Mar 3, 2018  

Such a great conversation here and I'm so glad Patrick got it going! One of the reasons we created the Dealers Compressed series is BECAUSE WE BELIEVE IN THE DEALERSHIP MODEL.  Dealers have been staples of their communities for the better part of a century. They know their customers, they are involved in the same things. 

I believe there is ZERO reason the local dealer shouldn't be able to deliver the very best CX. Period. 

Here's the rub: If they aren't quick to adopt the new consumer shopping preferences and cater to them, they will begin to lose market share. The traditional road to the sale has to be thrown out and a customer driven, flexible process has to be adopted. 

Yes, Beepi died. Vroom isn't far behind. Carvana is losing a lot of money but they are a heck of a lot farther down the road. Soon there will be 5 more and one of them will stick. Amazon will likely acquire brick and mortar because they CAN! 

Bottom line, consumer preference will ALWAYS find a way to the top. At this point everyone has a shot at it and I would argue dealers have the advantage, but that window is closing fast. 

Kelly Kleinman

Dealership News

Mar 3, 2018  

A world whereby Amazon sells everything and eliminates SMB is not healthy for any economy in the long run, and we're almost at that point.

Mari Campuzano

DealerSuccess

Mar 3, 2018  

Kelly, I definitely share your opinion! 

Patrick Bergemann

Image Auto LLC

Mar 3, 2018  

Kelly...that's our whole purpose behind the series. We don't want to hit that point. The warning signs are all there...acquiring Whole Foods, acquiring Ring, Toys'R'Us filing for bankruptcy...industries looking to join before they're crushed.

Everyone wants to say that selling a car online is hard, but the envelope keeps being pushed. Someone's going to figure it out and consumers are going to love it. Let's all help dealers figure it out first.

Kelly Kleinman

Dealership News

Mar 3, 2018  

Anyone see the picture of Bezos eating an iguana?  Disturbing.  How they went from selling books badly, to the evil empire of consumerism is a staggering tale.  It seems to me that Bezos is just anti-human enough to make some "political" miscalculation and get blacklisted by the public.  Perhaps it's too much AI vs actual employees, perhaps it's a whistle blower that spills some beans, maybe his space rockets crashes into NYC, who knows.  He makes too much money, has too much power, and has climbed too high...for what good?  Seriously, what good?  So we can get a couple bucks off an eye cream that arrives the next day instead of 3?  I'd be building out inner cities with recreation and job training facilities, investing in  natural remedy research for disease, building artificial limbs for people who need them, buying up huge tracts of property to help endangered species etc.  This guy wants to build his own starships...fine.  Our species isn't going anywhere except earth so, better seriously consider that no one gets off of this raft and we better keep it afloat.  For 39 billion a quarter - you can just leave the auto industry alone Jeff.  

Kelly Kleinman

Dealership News

Mar 3, 2018  

Hey, PB, I want to interview you...email me with your info: Kelly@dealershipnews.com

Kelly Kleinman

Dealership News

Mar 3, 2018  

BTW, the reason we had a record year for car sales last year and in 2015 was because we lost 1.5 million vehicles due to hurricanes.  Show me a big hurricane season and I'll show you...the money!

Patrick Bergemann

Image Auto LLC

Mar 3, 2018  

I'd argue there's probably a less destructive way to raise automotive sales.

Mar 3, 2018  

Beepi died, but it's founders son got a $600 million payday out of it and he went onto become a billionaire himself! And some of you will make $10 for the appointment and $100 flat if it sells. We're on the wrong side of big money. So when people tell me about some new car website, some hot new gimmick - I know why they are in business.

Patrick Bergemann

Image Auto LLC

Mar 3, 2018  

But gimmicks are only gimmicks when they're something to get a customer in the door and really offer them nothing extra. A new online feature to sell cars more efficiently that actually works would just be good business practice to give customers what they want.

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