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Mark Rask

Kelley Buick Gmc

Jan 1, 2017

Headed to NADA

We are headed to the NADA convention! Here are a few things that I have done to prepare. I have gone through each days workshop schedules and mapped out a schedule. I hope this will help maximize my learning time. I am planning to focus on learning more about digital strategies and also get some ideas on how to better manage my Business Development Center. I am also hoping to gain some knowledge on how to better mine our data for sales and service customers. 

I have also scheduled quite a few appointments with vendors as well. I plan to look at some upgrades for my business development center. 

The only downfall to this week before NADA is the amount of calls from vendors calling about the convention. I understand the sales aspect of it however we were just bombarded in the last two weeks. 

Having said that, I am still really excited about getting to go to the convention!

Mark Rask

Kelley Buick Gmc

Digital Marketing manager

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Mark Rask

Kelley Buick Gmc

Dec 12, 2016

To centralize or not centralize your BDC

 2016 was kind of a strange year for my department at the dealership. We bought a New store a while back and have really been working on getting that Business development center up to speed. We have both sales and service representatives in this department. The center is actually in the same area as the existing bdc that we have had for sometime at our Hyundai store. That in itself has its pros and cons. The bdc is actually located an our away from our Chevrolet store. This presents the obvious logistical challenges. Communication between the Business development reps and the sales people is that great due to the distance. The upside is that I have all of my reps together which makes tit easier to manage. This also makes training the reps easier as well.

 In 2017 we will be moving the Chevrolet business development center to the store that it supports. My concerns for that are that being a separate entity they will be harder to manage. I do however understand that communication will be better. Do any of you have any experience with centralized vs. Non centralized bdc's for multiple stores?

 

Mark Rask

Kelley Buick Gmc

Digital Marketing manager

1807

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Mark Rask

Kelley Buick Gmc

Nov 11, 2016

BDC training for 2017

  We have a service and sales bdc team for each of our stores. One is a Hyundai store and the other is a Chevrolet store. We have Three sales Business development reps for sales and two for service at our Hyundai store.  For the Chevrolet store we have two sales and one service bdc reps.

 Currently we train on an as needed basis and informally do performance feedback sessions. The sessions are not nearly as frequent as they should be. We do a good job at monitoring all of the performance metrics. (sales to appt ratio, show to appt made ratio etc) however I am looking for ideas on tarining and development processes that I can implement within the store without hiring a vendor to do it for us. I am also looking for any documentation that you may use for performance reviews.

 

Mark Rask

Kelley Buick Gmc

Digital Marketing manager

3244

2 Comments

Chad DeSelms

Weld County Garage

Dec 12, 2016  

We use car wars to keep the competiveness between them and other stores but the program also records all calls. Wehave a program that the other reps use to grade each others calls.(we do three calls each)  For each specific thing they get right (name, number. appointment etc.)  the program will increase their grade from an f to a d to a c etc. Then when we do monthly one on ones we will have a couple of random calls we play with them present to critique.  We also have random call selected and  played during our monthly meeting with the whole group. The results that each of the calls that are graded is  put up where it is visible as part of our power point we have in the BDC. The idea behind them grading each others calls is like coaching, once you can coach and understand what you are looking for you will be a much better player.  I have the graded sheet program if you would like me to send it to you. Hope this helps.

Mike Paradies

Automotive Process Champions

Dec 12, 2016  

So you want the secret sauce, but you don't want to pay for it. LOL 
Here is one step that I would recommend. The Random Review. I assume that you have a defined process, in writing, for how to handle the various types of leads. Focusing for a moment on the sales side, what we have had success with is frequently sitting down with the team and as individuals and projecting the CRM on a big screen. Take random internet leads from 10 days, 30 days 45 days out. Start at the beginning (the incoming lead) and thoroughly review each contact message inbound and outbound to see how they compare with the process. Timing, Message, appropriate response, use of templates, focus on appointments...etc. Make sure the process you have in place is being followed and if not hold their feet to the fire. Again, I recommend you do this in groups and with individuals. Don't weed through the leads to find the right one but rather be random. All leads count just like all sales count. Find out where we are not following the established process and then work on those areas. 
Always remember the 2 C's...Comprehension or Compliance. They either don't know how or they choose not to do it. Either way you have something to work with. 

Mark Rask

Kelley Buick Gmc

Oct 10, 2016

Driving Sales Executive Summit 2016

Driving Sales Executive Summit 2016

 

For me this was the best Driving Sales Executive Summit to date. I have never networked as much as I did at this conference. The industry's top leaders were definitely there!

 

Day One

On Sunday morning a group of us actually cycled in Red Rock Canyon. The people that I met on this ride are all industry leaders that I am super glad that I met! A huge thanks to Gary May with Interactive Marketing and Consulting Services for putting this on. Getting contacts like this is so valuable to me.

 

Jared Hamilton opened up the conference with a great speech! He talked a lot about how the automotive industry has actually become a forerunner in the digital marketing world.

Dan Zarella spoke next….the social media marketing info that he spoke about will be a great help to my dealership.

 

We then had the best idea sessions. While all of them were great I especially liked the one on the community calendar. This is a way for any dealership out there to get themselves known in the community by doing the right thing. I really liked the way that they asked for feedback from employees on which charities to take on and help.

 

My favorite breakout of that day was secrets to building a top performing service BDC. I have a pretty good BDC at the dealership currently. This session certainly gave me some improvement ideas.

 

The day ended with John Boudreau giving a keynote speech

 

Day Two

Day 2 was extremely crazy! We had breakout sessions and keynote speeches that were full of data and knowledge. Jared started off with his keynote speech which was very insightful and inspiring. He spoke about how we need to cut turnover. He presented a training path that they have tried with some dealers. It has actually cut turnover quite a bit at those stores.

My favorite breakout session of the whole conference was held that day. It was called “Digital Isn’t Driving Fixed Ops Revenue - Phone Calls Are." It reminded me of how important it is to handle every customer call properly. Casey Jenkins did a great job as a presenter. I especially liked the “tips” that she left us with.

I also had a chance to see Joe Chura’s presentation later in the week at my twenty-group meeting. (Cutting edge practices to combine PPC, SEO, mobile social into onsite website strategy) This was awesome as well.

 

Day Three

Day three was equally as rewarding as the others. The breakout session connecting the dots from online to in-store was very good. Of course Jared’s closing remarks were good as well.

Over all this was a great conference for me. It was great to be able to learn from the industry leaders. I strongly recommend it! I also that recommend that you try to check the videos of the breakouts when they are available. 

Mark Rask

Kelley Buick Gmc

Digital Marketing manager

1606

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Mark Rask

Kelley Buick Gmc

Sep 9, 2016

Business Development Center to Sales Process

We've had a business development center (BDC) at our Hyundai store for quite some time. We receive about four hundred internet leads and maybe 120 NEW sales calls a month (people not in our system). I feel we do a good job, but I'm always looking to improve. I am going to outline below how we handle each type of lead. Please provide feedback!

Internet Leads 

Our Internet leads are round robined out to sales people on the floor and a business development center rep. is assigned at the same time. If the salesperson can't get right to it my business development center reps are all over it. They are then working for the salesperson and will try to get the customer in to the store. Once they reach the customer, they contact the salesperson and let them know that an appointment has been set or inform them that they may need to contact the client.

Phone ups

Our inbound sales calls are sent straight to our business development center dept. They take the call and set the appointment. The appointments are told to ask for the sales manager. The business development center reps will then let the sales manager know that they have someone on the way.  The sales manager may go ahead and assign it to a sales person based on the situation. If needed on the initial call, the bdc may provide pricing and condition information. 

Walk ins

These are pretty straightforward. If the client does not buy on the first visit to the store, my business development center reps will do a follow call (save a deal call) on the next day. This is normally a very productive call.

Our average close rate on internet leads is 15-18% and close rate for phone ups is 25%

This is a very brief overview of our process, but it should give you a good enough picture to give us feedback.

Mark Rask

Kelley Buick Gmc

Digital Marketing manager

3237

4 Comments

Andrew Treanor

Lot Watch | Proactive Dealer Solutions

Oct 10, 2016  

One of the most impactful area the BDC delivers is sustained long term follow up.  All lead sources should carry a minimum of 90 day follow up...and internet leads should have a structured process out to 120 days.  While a lot of these efforts will be voicemails and unretunred emails making sure your Dealership is 'infront' of the customer when they are ready to do a deal is critical to maximizing BDC ROI.  One very powerful 'step' we recommend for Phoe-up's is creating a 15-minute window call back.  If a phone-up comes in and is NOT appointed a Manager (Sales or BDC) call's back within 15 minute's to try a second voice to secure the appointment.  Ideally, this would be a live T/O to a BDM during the initial phone-up, but that can be very challeneging in the reality of a working BDC... But, if that could add 2-3 deals a month, is it worth it?     

Oct 10, 2016  

Mark,

I am in the process of researching BDC from an unbiased standpoint to fully learn more and produce educational content around this topic.

Would you mind shooting me an email so we could discuss further? I've been reading your comments and posts and thought you might be the right guy to talk to! 

marissa@intice.com
Thanks!

Kristen Tepper

IncentiveFox

Oct 10, 2016  

Hey @Mark, All of this sounds awesome, few questions and I think you'll know what some are focused on ;)

1. Phone Ups - Just so i'm clear, as a customer if I call up and request a test drive appt, i'll be informed to come in and ask for the sales manager and someone at the BDC informs the sales manager. Is this done via a calendar invite or just in person? Just wondering if anyone ever gets missed or something slips through the cracks bc of the 100 million miles an hour dealerships at working at? 

2. Furthermore, do you guys work your follow-up-calls or no-shows in drip campaign fashion? - I'm sure you already know this but similar to - no offer on the first-third attempt then maybe  "free floor mats" or $25 beback offer after that?

3. Lastly, my favorite topic! How are you managing those referral leads? Are they ranked higher or put in a priority placement for salespeople? Do you feel those are tracked from phone calls or are they more likely to be walk ins? And what do you think your close rate on referrals is?

Mark Rask

Kelley Buick Gmc

Aug 8, 2016

bdc performance improvement

I am looking for some new ideas on how to improve the performance of my bdc associates. I have two sales Business development teams and two service bdc teams. They are split between our Hyundai and Chevrolet stores.

On the sales side They are averaging about 70 set appts each 50 showed appt\s with aprox 25-30 of those buying each month.....They are set up as a reverse bdc. Currently I monitor calls(some) and have them going through the driving sales training.

On the service side They are taking Inbound service appointment calls and calling recall customers. At the hyundai store they are setting about 400 appts each with an extremely high show percentage. At the Chevy store they setting roughly 250 appointments.  I have not really been  able to find any good training sources for this team.

 

 

Mark Rask

Kelley Buick Gmc

Digital Marketing manager

3064

3 Comments

C L

Automotive Group

Aug 8, 2016  

Are you running any Database campaigns? outbound calling stuff. LIke service never bought etc. 

 

Mark Rask

Kelley Buick Gmc

Aug 8, 2016  

Chris, we are starting to do this. Do you have some time next week to talk about this?

Mark Rask

Kelley Buick Gmc

Jul 7, 2016

Email campaigns

I am the digital marketing/bdc manager at a Hyundai and a Chevrolet store. They are two seperate stores.

 We do a lot of e mail marketing at both stores. I am starting to second guess that strategy and am looking for some advise on email marketing.

 We have the normal campaigns that are run within our crm. These are the schedules that are set up for continuous contacting the customerfor both sales and service. We also do an e mail blast about once  a month as well. This is usually used for some time of sales/service message.

 My questions for the community are:

1.How many e mails are to many?

2. Do any of you have any info on what type of stuff to NOT put in your emails?

3. What is a good open rate?

4.What is a good click through rate?

 I have some info on these questions that was put together quite some time ago. I am hoping to get some more up to date feedback.

Mark Rask

Kelley Buick Gmc

Digital Marketing manager

2281

1 Comment

Sarah Dodd

Shottenkirk Toyota

Jan 1, 2017  

I would love to know this stuff as well!!!! Gotta do one today and not even sure where to go with it.

Mark Rask

Kelley Buick Gmc

Jun 6, 2016

Digital KPIs ....what do you measure?

At our last Internet 20 Group meeting, we got in to a lengthy discussion as to what each of us should be using to measure various digital marketing campaigns. What we found was that each of us were measuring different things.

On search engine marketing campaigns (ppc), I measure cost per click. I also put a lot of weight on lost impression share as well. What I do not have for this area are any benchmarks to measure against. On display marketing campaigns, I also measure lost impression share. I dont put a lot of weght on clicks in this area. We use this mainly as a branding message. We do put tracking numbers on these campaigns and track the phone calls that we receive from each of them.

On our video preroll campaigns, I measure how long the videos are watched. Once again, I don't put much weight on clicks in this area because it is more of a branding play.

I really don't know what to measure on our Facebook/ocial campaigns. This is fairly new to us.

Any input on what you guys are measuring in the digital world would be a great help....also, if you could share the benchmarks that you are using as well that would be helpful.

Mark Rask

Kelley Buick Gmc

Digital Marketing manager

3365

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C L

Automotive Group

Jun 6, 2016  

Good stuff Mark.. Here is what I look at.. 

Facebook
    - Create a custom filter in the top right 
        - Delivery = any or check all the boxes
        - Impressions = > 0
    - In the columns drop down I select Performance and Clicks. 
    - If you need some help on where to find this into I can show you. 
    
    
GA
    Here is a link to my main GA dashboard I look at each month. You may have to customize it a bit to fit your url structure. 
        - https://analytics.google.com/analytics/web/template?uid=gqxBw7HuT_SAmhUkEWQWwA
        
        
Adwords
    Here is a screenshot of my columns i have as default.     
        http://i.imgur.com/VLjCqv3.png
        
    

Mark Rask

Kelley Buick Gmc

Apr 4, 2016

bdc.....what more can I do to help?

We have a bdc department for our Hyundai store and our Chevy store. At our Hyundai store we have 3 sales bdc reps and two service bdc reps. We are receiving aprox 320 internet leads per month and aprox 10 Phone calls per month(new customers). We are closing the internet leads at 15-18 percenct and the calls at 30 to 40 percent. These are the main activities that my bdc reps concentrate on.  This store averages 220 to 230 new and used car sales per month with my bdc department touching about 40 percent of them. We also have recently started doing a little data mining.

 Our chevy store has two sales bdc reps and one service bdc rep. This store receives aprox 260 leads per month with a close rate of 5 to 6 percent. They receive aprox 80 new phone calls per month as well. This store is doing 75-85 cars per month with the bdc dept touching about thirty percent of them.

 

I am looking for some ideas from the community that I can use to try to get more sales out of my department. Please share! What other things are you guys doing in your bdc departments to help the store?

Mark Rask

Kelley Buick Gmc

Digital Marketing manager

7122

11 Comments

Colin Thomas

theBDCtrainer.com

Apr 4, 2016  

Hey Mark, how many calls are you your reps making per day? I am extremely concerned by the 10 inbound phone calls per month. If the reps are making the number of outbound calls they should be we should see that number of  inbound callbacks from our outbound and message efforts alone daily. I'd be happy to speak with you one on one because I think I could definitely help, if at least over the phone I'd be glad to share what I can. 

Apr 4, 2016  

I'm confused.  If you are closing 15% of internet leads thats 48 cars sold.  But if you are responsible for 40% of the total 220 sales thats 88 sold.  What am I missing?

Mark Rask

Kelley Buick Gmc

Apr 4, 2016  

kelly that rate is on the leads that are sent straight to my bdc.....not followup stuff

 

Mark Rask

Kelley Buick Gmc

Apr 4, 2016  

collin you are right...i need more calls

May 5, 2016  

Watch Alan Ram's Video on my home page http://TheDigitalCarGuy.com

 

Stacey Ellison

BDC Max

May 5, 2016  

Are you doing an unsold follow up or equity mining out of your BDC?

C L

Automotive Group

May 5, 2016  

Alot of times when people come in for their appts. The notes in the CRM may not exist for what ever reason. So you end up with a lot of folks coming and then leaving and no one really knows why. The sales folks tend to not give straight answers either. So, we've started doing a curtousey call within 1 hour of someone leaving who showed for an appt. to find out their reason as to why they didnt buy. Doing this has helped us get more people back into the showroom leading to more sales from the BDC Dept. 

Jason Upham

Ed Martin Nissan

May 5, 2016  

I utilize an "old school" technique almost daily:  we collectively do an hour of power - a concentrated hour set aside for each rep to concentrate on making as many calls (goal is 20) as we can to create synergy.  Granted, we want our calls to be quality but our goal with these clients is to ask buying questions.  We highlight and share success stories specifically from each reps hour of power (appintments set directly through these calls, sales, etc).   This may boost 80 total calls each a day to 100.  

Here's why we do it.  It is a way for our reps to keep calling clients within our 90 day pipeline that have not purchased a vehicle yet.  My reps used to attempt these tasks individually but would always somehow get distracted or "busy" with an urgent client.  We have gone from "busy" to "productive".  We have now created new metrics for us to monitor.  Not only is going back for the leads increasing our closing ratio, but it is increasing sales in general.  Most CRM's can allow you to go back month by month, week by week, day by day. Now our team went from 30% of sales to this month touching 66% percent of total sales with a close ratio of just below 15%.  Always remember:  90 day pipeline, 90 day pipeline, 90 day pipeline..... Hope this helps. :)

Michael Bilson

Conversica

May 5, 2016  

When dealers add Conversica into the BDC department something amazing happens.  BDC reps suddenly increase talk time and appointments while ending needless dials to bad leads or unresponsive customers.  

May 5, 2016  

How successfully are making contact with leads? Whats your contact rate? Also, do you track the average sales cycle of the leads you close?

A common area that can be improved is with the type of information you collect with your leads to help improve your contact rate. Think beyond basic contact info but other items like "What can we do to ensure we earn your business" , "how else can we best assist you with your shopping" or "What's the next best step for you". Then when your sales reps receive a lead and follow up with a voicemail or email message, it can be more relevant to the consumer. Which in turn can increase your contact/response rate. 

I've also seen dealers focusing on leads from consumers that are earliest in the shopping process. It's a little harder to stay with someone that has just started out vs. someone buying this week but if you can do it, it could mean finding a few more deals a month. Typically these conversations consist of consultative conversations around choosing high level paths in the buying journey. Consumer are trying to decide if they should buy new or used, lease or finance and what body type best fits them. You can help share content to help with these decisions, anwser questions or if you have access to them, even send over assessment/quiz tools for them to use on their own, which collects additional lead information. 

Good luck! 

Gary May

Interactive Marketing and Consulting Services

May 5, 2016  

Everyone wishes it were that simple @Mark. Chances are you are light on contact attempts and connecting with quality content/calls. What CRM are you using? What reports on effectiveness does it show (and not manipulated/filtered reports)? What are your store(s) requirements for outbound contacts and for how long?

There are a few routes you can take, however they are all results-driven. You also need to look at your performance disparity between the two stores. Lot's of "experts" and "Trainers" exist pushing the same solutions/templates (it's for measuring, trust me!!!) into dozens (or hundreds) of stores with mediocre results but claiming huge improvements.

Come up with a strategy with solid goals and huge accountability from your BDC staff(s). Make a significant commitment for no less than 90 days with the required (or formulated) changes and measure.

There is no reason why you can't hit north of 20% with both BDC staffs however, on the surface, it seems that you have major issues with your Chevrolet store.

Our formula with dealers that follow our methodology completely is 70%+ contact rate, 60% +appointment rate and 60%+ show rate. It's been successful in over 100 stores since 2007. This typically leads to 20% plus closing, depending on store averages (not BDC activities such as financing, trade equity, showroom process, etc.)

Let me know if you have any more questions. Again, it would be great if it were that simple. More stores would close more effectively, but not willing to work that hard or hold staff accountable.

 

Here's to your success!!!

- Gary

Mark Rask

Kelley Buick Gmc

Mar 3, 2016

Hyundai Dealer Rater Dealer of the Year

We were recently awarded Hyundai Dealer Rater's Dealer of the Year for the U.S. and Florida. We also won the award for Florida last year. This is something we worked really hard at all year. We were able to get the whole dealership involved by going over the goal at every sales meeting....especially in the last two months of the year. We shared the reviews that we received each week in our weekly sales meetings. We also shared where we were at in relation to our goal. We originally were trying to win Florida again, but ended up getting the award for the U.S. Not only does this help with our image in the customers eyes, but it is a great team bulding exercise as well.

One may ask what value does this have for us? Well the SEO value alone has helped in a big way. We also are able to bring this up in our traditional advertising as well. We felt that while it is good to get reviews in all areas that maybe we should put an emphasis on one platform and be the best. We have also been able to show our sales staff how they can leverage this to brand themselves. We have one salesperson who is really old school, but bought in to the review process. He actually has had several customers come in and ask for him because of seeing his reviews! He has created his own brand! Take a look at how he shows up when you Google his name.

https://www.google.com/#q=Roger+spadaro+pensacola

Mark Rask

Kelley Buick Gmc

Digital Marketing manager

3086

3 Comments

Jason Stum

Launch Digital Marketing

Mar 3, 2016  

That's awesome to hear, Mark. Congrats! I really like how you incorporated your reviews into your regular meetings and other advertising. A fantastic way to leverage your review content.

Kristen Tepper

IncentiveFox

Mar 3, 2016  

This is awesome! I want to give Roger a major high-five. Adapting to, and even more so, embracing the digital world and all it's tools/quirks is not easy but those reviews are awesome. Personal branding is such a fun and exciting endeavor.  And those reviews add such invaluable insight for anyone looking understand where they excel at their job/where they could improve.  GO ROGER!

Mark Rask

Kelley Buick Gmc

Mar 3, 2016  

Thanks Jason and Kristen!

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